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Looks great. Love the grille and stretch. Paint is awesome, too. Beautiful build.
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Hey everyone just thought I'd drop in with my latest build. It has some parts from MTB scratchbuilt bumper and outlaw steps, stretched frame to 280 scale inch, aftermarket wheels italeri tires. Removed the bars from the grille and put a single bar in the center. It's a tribute to Rob Spencers black Kenworth. IMT Transport in Iowa (Jeremy Gouge) owns it now. It started with a ROG W900 kit. Thanks!
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Welcome aboard. This place has great info to assist in builds!
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Thanks Dave! I guarantee that I will have some reference questions to post in the future.
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I was watching large car wrecker videos on YouTube. Not only do I find them entertaining but a source of inspiration as well. I watch Pepe's out of LA, Wilcox Garage based in Willard, Ohio, and Sumter Wrecking from Sumter, SC. Each company has unique operational areas and challenges which makes it even more interesting. Sumter Wrecking in South Carolina has an old Holmes 750 mounted on a 1985 Freightliner they use to pull farm equipment out of the Carolina clay because its relatively light weight means it won't get stuck like a heavier rig might. I decided my fantasy fleet needed a similar unit. Being from an agricultural county here in Ohio means we have lots of farmers with lots of wet fields sometimes. But I wanted my wrecker to be a 6 by 6 on flotation tires to maybe keep it from getting stuck. I started a Holmes 1801 wrecker 25 years ago and never finished it but I did save all the parts I scratch built. According to tow truck operators back in the day they described the pulling power of an 1801 like this..."if you think a Holmes 750 pulls hard, you should see an 1801 at work". STS Supply supplied the C500 hood and the front drive axle which I modified to make it poseable. Not hard to do once you see how STS molded the part. The body of this particular model came from AMT's 'Big Stick' kit. I modified it and stretched it with Evergreen Scale Models styrene sheets and shapes. The '1801' was pretty much done but I did change some minor things to improve its appearance...meaning I got better 25 years later. It's still a WIP but will be done soon as the weather breaks. Queenie hates it when I paint in the house and MomNature hasn't warmed up enough to paint outside....***sigh***.
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I have a thing for trucks that 'work' for a living. Not to demean over the road units with all the chrome and flash because hauling 40tons cross country takes a strong rig in its own right. Let's just say I like trucks that get down and dirty when doing their jobs. I also like large car wreckers. I am a retired truck driver with 42 years experience, and I am also a model builder with 66 years of experience. I love to scratch build and modify whether it be a 1/25 scale '58 Impala with a chopped top or a fleet of large cars. I rarely build model cars now because of my love of large cars. I have a fantasy fleet of wreckers that I started several years ago, and this is the latest addition to that fleet. I purchased a T800 resin hood from STS Supply and got started. This model is your basic 4 axle wrecker/recovery unit that is not modelled after any particular manufacturer like Challenger or Miller Industries. I like to use another fantasy company called W.A.G Engineering. The W.A.G. stands for Wild Ass Guess! That means I have a basic idea of what I want to build but with no plans to go by it becomes a build as you go thing. With the exception of the kit parts you see the entire wrecker body/unit were built using Evergreen Scale Models sheet plastic and various structural shapes, all in styrene plastic. I like Testor's in the orange tube to hold it all together. I decided the wheel lift was going to be modelled after a Zack lift unit I saw installed on a 1:1 wrecker. I like all my 'important' parts to be poseable.
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Wow! This is an incredible build. What a great piece of equipment. Your scratch-building skills are top-notch. The operating features are equally impressive.
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The inspiration for this build came from a real wrecker/recovery Peterbilt owned by a company just a few miles from where I live. I watched the wrecker in action and was amazed at the capability it exhibited. I knew I had to build one albeit on a KW chassis cause in my world there are only two large cars made...KW and all the rest! Anyway, the real rig weighs 102,000 pounds and that's why it has 5 axles. Here in Ohio where I live it has a special permit to operate on highways throughout the state. Since I can be in WV or Pennsylvania in less than 20 minutes I'm assuming the company, Marlboro Towing, has similar permits in those states as well. The model is almost entirely scratch built using Evergreen Scale Models styrene plastic sheets and structural shapes. The only kit parts used were the frame, rear axle assembly, the cab/interior, a few other odds and ends. It's worth noting the hood is entirely scratch built with the exceptions of the GMC General fenders I had laying around. The entire wrecker unit is scratch built. The wrecker rotates and will travel a scale 7 feet on the frame, front to back.
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This thing looks pretty sweet!
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Queston about AMT's White-Freightliner COE wheels and tires
A64B replied to Sedandelivery53's topic in Model Truck Kit Discussion
Some of the older AMT WFL kits had Plastic 2 piece tires they looked the best. I’ll see if I can find some and post them -
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Mock up time! I put on what I believe will be the final coat of primer. Mr. Hobby Mr. Surfacer 1500 Black. Great stuff. I’ve had such good luck with this brand, highly recommended. Looks pretty sinister in all matt black, huh? But, plenty of chrome, aluminum and stainless will be added along with a glossy black finish. Some final fitting and minor adjustment will be needed with the body, cab, hood, and chassis, but overall, it fits together very well at this point.
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Queston about AMT's White-Freightliner COE wheels and tires
Sedandelivery53 replied to Sedandelivery53's topic in Model Truck Kit Discussion
Thanks for the advice. This will be my first semi in a few decades (and the same kit over again). My vision is a resto-mod with dual high intakes and dual exhaust, Detroit 8V92T, and stretched 36" to allow tool kits and larger tanks (and a better "ride"). I'm leaning towards the M&R wheels, not sure what tires will fit them. I'll talk to Jim Russell at M&R before ordering. I'm also planning a White high cabover using an AMT Astro frame, Jim has beautiful Western Star wheels I'd like to use. My sales brochure for White says that it had 24.5" rims too. So all this planning should cover two cabover projects. I'll post them when I start them. -
Queston about AMT's White-Freightliner COE wheels and tires
vincen47 replied to Sedandelivery53's topic in Model Truck Kit Discussion
Just found out on the other forum that despite being on what was called 20” wheels, vintage tube tires went on rims that were pretty close to 22.5” in diameter. The more you know. -
Queston about AMT's White-Freightliner COE wheels and tires
Rbray47 replied to Sedandelivery53's topic in Model Truck Kit Discussion
I built the White FL recently, but I used Moebius wheels. However, the Uniroyal tires it comes with are the same in some other Amt kits. They fit a little loose on 3d printed 22.5s, as well as the Amt rims, but filling them with wadded up paper towels makes them "take a bead" on the rims. -
Queston about AMT's White-Freightliner COE wheels and tires
vincen47 replied to Sedandelivery53's topic in Model Truck Kit Discussion
I understand the uncertainty of kit wheels and their scale accuracy. It’s an issue. I’ve often searched for correctly scaled wheels. It seems they are all over the place in terms of accuracy. I don’t have a White Freightliner COE kit to measure the wheels. I know they are different than other AMT kits. But, I just measured the wheels from an AMT T600 (I think they are the same as the ones in the W900 kit), and they have a separate rim that you add. They are 23.08 mm in diameter at the very outside of the rim, or 22.72” in 1/25 scale, so pretty close to 22.5’s. I originally thought they were 20” wheels like everyone says. Now, the diameter of the wheel opening scales out to 20”. Not sure where they are measuring from. Hmm. Either way, I had planned to replace them with Moebius wheels. I mainly build modern trucks or restomod classic trucks that have been updated with modern wheels and tires, so I go aftermarket for Italeri and other 1/24 trucks, and either Moebius (22.5”) or aftermarket for 1/25 trucks. I can point you in the direction of 22.5 or 24.5 wheels for those trucks, but for a period-correct FL COE, I’m not certain. I can look for more info. I know the question has come up before on the forums. I’ve heard of some aftermarket guys offering better vintage split rims. I just haven’t paid a whole lot of attention being I haven’t needed them yet. I would imagine the directional FL hole wheels from M&R (an excellent aftermarket wheel provider) would be too modern, unless that’s what you’re going for in your build. The 1/24 M&R wheels I have are 25.89 mm or 24.5” in scale. I would imagine his 1/25 line of wheels would also scale out to 24.5”. -
Queston about AMT's White-Freightliner COE wheels and tires
Sedandelivery53 posted a topic in Model Truck Kit Discussion
I posted this on the Model Car Magazine Forum, but didn't receive any responses. I've heard conflicting information about AMT's White-Freightliner COE wheels and tires. 1. From what I have gathered from various sources, the 1:1 rig wore 24.5" wheels, and the wheels in the kit are close to that size. This supposedly applies to this kit, the Road Boss, Autocar and White conventional. As for the Kenworth W900, they are supposed to have 22.5" rims but the kit rims are actually 20" rims. Can anyone confirm? 2. The rims in my Freightliner COE kit appear to be of the "split rim" type, with a retaining ring on the front of the wheel. Not an expert on this older wheel other than they used "tubes". Is this as good as a split rim gets? Need a set for a Movin' On KW, would just use the Freightliner rims unless they are 24.5" scale. My guess is 1/24 scale directionals from M&R wheels will be the best prototypical wheels for this Freightliner COE truck? -
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Brian Conn replied to henry benoit jr's question in Model Tuck Building Question and Answer
To determine how much to add to the frame..... Dry fit (no glue) the 359 body (hood, cab sleeper) on the 359 frame. Take one of the sides of the wrecker bed and place it behind the sleeper to give you an idea of how much to add if your not ready to start cutting on the frame....OR (preferred) go ahead and make your cut on the frame, then support the front portion of the frame (making it level) with the hood, cab and sleeper in place and then center the tandems in the wrecker bed wheel wells once you have determined where you want the wrecker bed to sit. The gap between the 2 frame halves is what you will need to add. Another possibility would be to cut the frame directly behind the sleeper on the 359 and directly in front of the wrecker bed on the other and connect the two frames. Since your dealing with 2 different kit manufacturers, this would not be a highly visible area -
I have this peterbilt 359 and I have this amt wrecker bed how much would I need to stretch the ROG 359 chassis with the sleeper to get this wrecker bed to fit it
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This one gave me a couple issues, but overall wasn't too bad. I scratchbuilt a lot of parts and added Moebius wheels. I planned a matching 27ft trailer, but it's not finished yet.
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A fleet of Freightliner COEs - AMT
Sedandelivery53 replied to 02fusoFG's topic in Model Truck Workbench
Thanks! I really appreciate the input on this one. I will print out your list and add them to the instructions. Plan is to add M&R metal Freightliner wheels, twin intakes and stacks, and "Turnpiker" style one piece, non-humped fenders. Using etched metal grills, radiators and dash gauge kits from CTM - CZECH TRUCK MODEL. Heard one of these with a Detroit 8V92 in it, was so wicked sounding. Have to find one of those to add too. Before I build this one, I may be building a Western Star High cabover using an AMT Astro frame (the only one with the correct X-shaped crossmember between the cab and the fifth wheel) that I sniped off of Ebay. Have to find a way to make the Monument Valley paint scheme decals. I'll introduce that topic in the future. (I redacted the quote to save space in my reply, I saved it as a text to my hardrive).
