DRIPTROIT 71 Posted January 28, 2022 These trucks were used by CF to push trucks over Donner pass in the snow. I will start with the AMT kit. It has two options; a 63” daycab or a 86” sleeper cab. My reference truck appears to have the 72” cab. So that is where I am starting. 63” cab 86” cab: New 72” cab: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vincen47 Posted January 28, 2022 Nice! I like the 72” cab, love to see things not in the original kit. I imagine the CF pushers were used exclusively to push CF rigs. Did CF pushers ever provide service to other trucking lines? What a unique operation. Reminds me of the railroad pusher operations over mountain passes, including Donner. Some railroad pushers are still used to this day, despite improvements in distributed power, technology, and horsepower increases in the industry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted January 28, 2022 From what I understand, these pushers would push anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted February 8, 2022 A little more progress on this one. Power comes from 903 Cummins, 5 speed Spicer transmission, large air tank for the air starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vincen47 Posted February 8, 2022 Nice progress. Was the air starter spec’d on the trucks because of the winter environment? I’ve heard of them before but never looked into the pros and cons. Not something you see often modeled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted February 9, 2022 11 hours ago, vincen47 said: Nice progress. Was the air starter spec’d on the trucks because of the winter environment? I’ve heard of them before but never looked into the pros and cons. Not something you see often modeled. I’m guessing that CF liked them to cut down on battery cost, but I’m not sure. The main con is that once your air leaks down, you have to have an air hose to jump it off. I assume that is why they had the big tanks. There is a video on YouTube of an old CF truck that has the air tank for the starter where the passenger seat should be. It looks like a big water tank. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted February 15, 2022 A little more progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vincen47 Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) Nice. Looks almost ready. Was there weight added to the bed? I also imagine they used tire chains or at least aggressive-tread drive tires? Might be hard to tell from the research photos. Maybe the hooks are for chains. Edited February 15, 2022 by vincen47 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted February 16, 2022 On 2/15/2022 at 4:54 PM, vincen47 said: Nice. Looks almost ready. Was there weight added to the bed? I also imagine they used tire chains or at least aggressive-tread drive tires? Might be hard to tell from the research photos. Maybe the hooks are for chains. Thanks Vince! There was concrete in the bed for weight. I am trying to decide how I want to replicate the concrete. Creative license has been used on many things that I have no photos of. The look of the concrete falls into that category. I have tire chains for the drive tires and there will be chains on all the hangers. I always wondered why they didn’t use tandem drive trucks for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted February 17, 2022 Getting close to the finish line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted February 18, 2022 Closer. Still need to figure out how I am going to replicate the concrete for the bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vincen47 Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) If I had to venture a guess on the concrete, I would imagine they’d use a couple large rectangular precast concrete blocks. This is just an assumption. Nothing pretty, just reinforced with an iron loop to hook onto to and load them into the bed. To replicate them, you could use plaster or a similar modeling medium and cast them by building a mold out of styrene or gator board. I’d make them hollow, leaving out the bottom. Plaster can easily be stained, chipped, and weathered to look exactly like concrete. Woodland Scenics makes a whole line of stuff designed to create roads for model railroads. They have a product called Smooth-it that works great, or you can even use plain ol’ plaster of Paris. Acrylic paints and stains, I’m sure you have. I’ve even used concrete patch found at the hardware stores, too, but some of them are a little too viscous to work with easily. It’s also possible you’d find something useful in resin from the 1/35 military guys. I’m sure they have precast concrete blocks for dioramas. Now, if they poured the concrete into the bed, which I guess is also possible, that look could also be replicated with plaster, too, I suppose, carefully. I know of railroads that literally poured concrete into former locomotive fuel tanks when the units had their engine removed when converted into essentially just cab units later in life for push/pull service. Love the chains, btw. Awesome details. Edited February 18, 2022 by vincen47 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted February 19, 2022 This one is pretty much done. I used plaster from Woodland Scenes for the concrete. This was my first experience experimenting with snow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vincen47 Posted February 20, 2022 Awesome job. It really looks like a workhorse with a mission to accomplish. Excellent details, and a nice and simple base that gives it a sense of place. Honestly, you don’t have to add anything else. Snow is tough to replicate and more doesn’t always make it better, it just covers up the detail work you did, and looks gaudy. Besides, if it’s just parked on a decent day on the pass, waiting for the next storm, most of the snow will have melted off in the sun, save for a dusting from the blowing wind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted February 24, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 9:58 AM, vincen47 said: Awesome job. It really looks like a workhorse with a mission to accomplish. Excellent details, and a nice and simple base that gives it a sense of place. Honestly, you don’t have to add anything else. Snow is tough to replicate and more doesn’t always make it better, it just covers up the detail work you did, and looks gaudy. Besides, if it’s just parked on a decent day on the pass, waiting for the next storm, most of the snow will have melted off in the sun, save for a dusting from the blowing wind. Thanks Vince! I agree that I didn’t want it to be gaudy. I figured that after the snow had stopped falling that the heat from the engine and cab would have most of the snow melted off in that area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flat Rock Freighter Posted November 16, 2022 Recently joined the group as I'm going to get back into constructing some Freightliner tractors and CF trailers I've been sitting on for years, and saw your work on this "pusher". As an ex-Con, remember back in the day when these were featured in an article in The Freighter about these working out of the Rio Linda Consolidation Center. As a newbie, I have a few questions, if that's OK: What red paint did you use? I know the original colors were spec'd as Pantone 185 for the red, and Pantone 348 for the green for corporate identification, but have no idea how those translate to automotive/modeling paint colors. I noticed you added a period-correct air start tank and two-hole Budd wheels; do you have a source to recommend? I assume you did some modifications to change from the four-headlight to the correct two-headlight configuration; is that correct? I could probably ask many more questions, but appreciate you looking at these three to start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted January 4, 2023 On 11/16/2022 at 4:32 PM, Flat Rock Freighter said: Recently joined the group as I'm going to get back into constructing some Freightliner tractors and CF trailers I've been sitting on for years, and saw your work on this "pusher". As an ex-Con, remember back in the day when these were featured in an article in The Freighter about these working out of the Rio Linda Consolidation Center. As a newbie, I have a few questions, if that's OK: What red paint did you use? I know the original colors were spec'd as Pantone 185 for the red, and Pantone 348 for the green for corporate identification, but have no idea how those translate to automotive/modeling paint colors. I noticed you added a period-correct air start tank and two-hole Budd wheels; do you have a source to recommend? I assume you did some modifications to change from the four-headlight to the correct two-headlight configuration; is that correct? I could probably ask many more questions, but appreciate you looking at these three to start. Sorry for the late response, I haven't been around for a while. Life has been busy. I don't remember the paint color. I'm pretty sure that I used Duplicolor in a spray can though. The stripes are decals from the kit. The air tank came from the AMT R-Model Mack. The 2 hole Budds came from Double Take Replicas, sadly they are no longer in business. Jamie at moluminum.com offers excellent 2 hole Budds though. I did convert it from 4 headlights to 2 headlights. If you have any more questions let me know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.O.T. Bob Posted February 17, 2023 Man that's nice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites